This article refers to C90 models after 1977 and sold in the UK.
When working on a later model always refer to this article first; where no information is given it can be assumed that the procedure is essentially the same as that described for the earlier models. It is essential to identify exactly the model being worked on; to assist the owner in this, the major identifying points of each are given below with the relevant frame numbers, where available. Where only one frame number is given, this is the number at which that particular model's production run commenced. Note that the frame number is the only accurate means of identifying a particular model. The Z-2 models are largely identical to the original versions, the only significant difference being the fitting of a new type of carburettor with a handlebar-mounted choke operated by cable. The Z-Z models can be identified by the conical-ended silencer. They employed modified components to give a revised gelselection pattern.
The C90-C models are easily distinguished by their two-tone dualseats and restyled headlamp cowling and legshields. They all feature modified air filters, 12 volt electrics and CDI ignition systems. In addition to this, the C90 engine/gearbox unit was completely redesigned and is now exactly the same in layout as that of the C70 model, its new bore and stroke dimensions giving a capacity of 86cc.
The C90-E models, also known as the 'Super Cub' or 'Economy' models, are largely the same as the -C models but feature heavily revised cycle parts with more angular styling and are fitted with larger, rectangular flashing indicator lamps and head lamps; a fuel gauge is fitted and the handlebar controls improved.
The C90-E is fitted with modified selector components which enable neutral to be selected in one movement when the machine is stationary.
The C90-G, N and P models differ only in minor detail from the C90-E, and can be distinguished by their matt black-finished indicator lamps.
The C90-M models are fitted with an electric start, the motor being bolted to a modified left-hand engine cover and driving the crankshaft via a chain ar.1d a roller-type clutch mounted on the inner face of the (reversed) generator rotor. The generator coils are now mounted on the inside of the left-hand engine cover; apart from minor alterations which do not affect servicing procedures the engine is otherwise exactly the same as the standard, kickstart-only, models. The electrical system incorporates a larger-capacity battery as well as the starter button and relay. The cycle parts remain unchanged.
The earlier C90M-F models can be distinguished only by its chrome-plated flashing indicator lamps as opposed to the matt black-finished lamps fitted to the later C90M-G, M-N and M-P models; apart from this the differences are minor.
Model | Frame number |
C90Z-2 | C90-5104865 to C90-5132699 |
C90Z-Z | C90-5133011 |
C90-C | HA02-1122937 to HA02-1129446 |
C90-E | HA02-1335426 |
C90-G | HA02-1392669 to HA02-1460128 |
C90-N | HA02-5200001 |
C90-P | HA02-5300028 |
C90M-F | HA02-1364806 to 1395407 |
C90M-G | HA02-1395328 to 1459318 |
C90M-N | HA02-5200001 |
C90M-P | HA02-5300035 |
Source: Haynes OWM - ISBN 1859600123
Comments
Hi, based on your information I have to assume that your full frame number is C90-5176869. My database is not very clear in ranges of numbers, but I could assume that if I only see one number, I should see it as "from that number up." So, right now, I would say C90Z-Z.
The Z-Z models can be identified by the conical-ended silencer. Also, based on this, my data says that this model is not older than 1977.
Do you have more leads, or perhaps clear photo's of this Honda?
5176869
many thanks!!!
Hi, I do not have this serial number present in my database, but seeing the way that the number is made up, I'd say between 1968 and 1975. I base this on the -only- entry I have, which is a C90M. But keep in mind that the "modern" VIN numbers started from 1981 and up.
So hmm. At least before 1981! Good luck, sorry I have not been able to pinpoint the year for you!
Eng I'd C90E 234302
Please can you confirm age
Thank you